$1.1B bus system service between Midtown and Cobb proposed
The $1.8 million study looked at the best possible ways to establish a mass transit conduit from Acworth to the MARTA Arts Center Station in Midtown.
The Cobb County Board of Commissioners were briefed on the progress of a transit alternatives analysis presented by Connect Cobb, a project of the Cobb County Department of Transportation, during their Tuesday morning meeting in Marietta.
The $1.8 million study, performed principally by Croy Engineering, looked at the best possible ways to establish a mass transit conduit from Acworth to the MARTA Arts Center Station in Midtown.
The presentation outlined several different mass-transit scenarios, including light rail, express service in HOV or managed lanes on Interstate 75, and a bus rapid transit (BRT) proposal.
All proposals have the goal of extending rapid transit options from Cobb County to the existing mass transit systems inside Atlanta. Cities involved in the new transit lines would include Kennesaw, Acworth, Marietta and Smyrna. Kennesaw State University and Southern Polytechnic State University would also get stations on the new route.
The Locally Preferred Alternative plan would consist of an arterial bus rapid transit line on U.S. 41 and an express bus in the proposed I-75 managed lanes. There would be feeder routes to provide localized access to the system along the route.
Connect Cobb projects the economic impact of their $1.1 billion bus system plan to be significant; the group believes the transportation initiative would spur the creation of 1.2 million sq. ft. of new retail space, 11,000 new housing units, and the creation of over 50,000 jobs in the area.
There currently is bus service offered between Midtown and the Cumberland area and beyond, but as a Midtown resident, would you like see an express bus service to Cobb County become a reality? Would you use it?
What remains to be seen is how any proposed project would be funded. There was a $689 million earmark for an Acworth to Midtown transit service in the recently-defeated TSPLOST, but no other alternative funding methods have been suggested. Cobb Commissioner Bob Ott called the proposed bus system “a pipe dream.”
Additionally, the county is awaiting the results of a $3 million environmental study being conducted by Kimley-Horn & Associates, which will not be ready for another 18 to 24 months, said Cobb DOT Director Faye DiMassimo to The Marietta Daily-Journal.
“Long-range planning is an important activity for identifying transportation needs,” she said to the MDJ. “Any large infrastructure project requires such a step in order for it to be accomplished.”
Tim
10:47 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Maybe if this system went to Kennesaw Mountain Park, but other than that I do not see a reason for me to use it if it is built. However, for people living in Cobb and working in Atlanta it may be popular. Wonder why so expensive...sounds like they just buy busses and put them on Hwy 41 and I-75...don't they aready do this with he Express busses?
Marc
11:30 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Tim is right on all points. Not sure if there would be much demand from Midtown except to some recreation areas, but the reverse might have some interest. I'm not comprehending a $1.8 million study and a $1.1 billion system. Seems like each is off by orders of magnitude. One possibility is that the $1.1 billion is not just for implementation but is projected for, say 10 or 20 years and includes operating costs, maintenance, replacement vehicles over that duration.
Chris H
11:32 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
It's still a bus. It still gets stuck in traffic. A bus does not cause economic development around it's stops like a rail line does. Cobb county will do anything to stay away from rail. I'm so tired of listening to Cobb's antiquated views on public transit.
It's sad too because Marietta square is really cool and I would love to take MARTA up there and spend a night in the restaurants and bars. They could become like Decatur Square. But, I'm sure as hell not driving up there.
Bryan Farley
11:53 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
So true
Bryan Farley
11:33 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
A bad idea completely. A rail line would spur far more growth and have a greater economic impact. Also it would be much faster than BRT service. I don't know why they think in a county of over 700 thousand people that it can't support heavy rail transit. BART in Cali and even the Long Island Rail Road both provide commuter heavy rail transit and it works fine in the more rural areas. Nobody is saying that 50 story towers have to pop up near every station. That area would mainly be for commuters who drive to the station and come into the city. Just like at North Springs or Doraville stations. But it will generate some development. Who is going to drive to a bus park and ride over a rail park and ride service?
Bryan Farley
11:42 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Extending MARTA heavy rail and having Cobb join is a far better option than to try to expand the slower and more limited CCT service. The rail can be developed in 3 stages: 1) The original Brookwood line to Cumberland 2) Cumberland to Marietta Square via Atlanta Road and 3) Marietta Square to Wade Green Rd via Town Center. BRT service should be limited to heavy traffic road WITHIN the county to bring people to rail stations, not at the alternative to bring the masses of people into the city. It was even said that a 1 cent tax would generate about 120 million a year in Cobb. That is more than enough to fund rail operations, BRT service along major roads, and expand the local service outside the central line of the county. Also you can now connect Cobb and Fulton without going through 2 different systems. You could even extend the Blue line from Holmes station to Six Flags and use it not only as a direct access to the park but also as a commuter station for those coming in from the west and south Cobb.
Chris H
1:43 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I don't think Cobb is still anywhere near ready to pay the 1c sales tax and join the MARTA system for a number of reasons that I think we all know. A large portion of it's population has to die off before it's younger generations can seriously talk about expanding MARTA up there.
Bryan Farley
5:15 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I have to agree Chris H, unfortunately. I guess we can still dream that one day Cobb will come to its senses and realize that they are part of the main core metro area and need a mass transit system, not the mess they call CCT.
Russell Sauve
12:44 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I would use it but it would have to be convenient. I might as well drive all the way in if I have to fight to get to central hub like the Cobb Galleria.
Bryan Farley
12:54 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
That's the problem. That won't be the end stop forever. Midtown to Cumberland was just the first phase of a line to Acworth. All rail systems are built that way. You may not see the benefit but your children will once it is extended.
So many people think about how will it benefit ME right NOW versus the long term. If our parents and grand parents would have did that we wouldn't have nothing we have now transportation wise.
Sara Van Beck
8:37 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Looked very quickly at the pdf, and i'm surprised their ridership estimates are lower for rail than bus... ? I'd also like to know a rough ballpark of cost of land aquisition for rail.
I am impressed that Cobb is pressing ahead with some form of mass transit, more than most of the rest (save what, Clayton?)... If you could take transit and then a small shuttle to Lake Allatoona, that'd be lovely~
Chris H
11:20 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Sara, Clayton County is pushing for joining MARTA, trying to get it on the ballot even by this November.
http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2012/08/14/clayton-county-transit-advocates-pushing-for-marta-vote-in-november
Tomathy
11:03 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
I never go out there because I don't want to sit in traffic. I would never use the bus service because you would just be sitting in traffic.